Gas prices

[Bj]

With the gas prices rising I was wondering whats your local gas prices?

 

[Eagle]

Meh, this is what happens when very little is done to increase supply for a decade.

 

[simonpro]

Liters or gallons?

 

[Bj]

Liters or gallons?

Gallons

Meh, this is what happens when very little is done to increase supply for a decade.

or reduce demand.

 

[simonpro]

Prices here are 11.72DKK/liter, or $9.34/gallon.

Doesn't seem to be an option for that though

 

[Bj]

Prices here are 11.72DKK/liter, or $9.34/gallon.

Doesn't seem to be an option for that though

holy :blink:

do you even drive at that price???

 

[dutchpirate]

European gas prices in general would absolutely floor North Americans. Some nations apply a gas tax and then a sales tax on top of it. Current prices run between $8-$9.50/gallon depending on the country.

 

[wehaveaproblem]

I think we have different gallon sizes to you, here in the UK. But my local is £1.16 litre of regular unleaded. That's about $2.30.

 

[Bj]

European gas prices in general would absolutely floor North Americans. Some nations apply a gas tax and then a sales tax on top of it. Current prices run between $8-$9.50/gallon depending on the country.

:blink:

so do you guys do much driving? But then, whats your average fuel economy? USA is roughly 15-30 average. (atleast in my town) some trucks from some people I know around here only gets 5 mpg. If your getting 40-60 mpg then the cost per mile is roughly the same...

 

[Bj]

I think we have different gallon sizes to you, here in the UK. But my local is £1.16 litre of regular unleaded. That's about $2.30.

1 Imperial gallon = 1.20095042 US gallons

so about $2.76 for one of our gallons.

I havent seen a 2 in there for so long, unless it was like $4.02

but thats nothing compared...

 

[simonpro]

holy :blink:

do you even drive at that price???

Not really, my car is a gas guzzler (gets about 14mpg), but even if it wasn't then in the city it's both cheaper and quicker to cycle everywhere.

(edit) Strangely enough gas prices are lower in the far north of Sweden (Kiruna). Not quite figured that one out, must cost a lot to ship it up there.

(edit2)

1 Imperial gallon = 1.20095042 US gallons

so about $2.76 for one of our gallons.

I havent seen a 2 in there for so long, unless it was like $4.02

but thats nothing compared...

Actually he gave it in liters, which means:

£1.16/liter = $8.69/ US gallon.

 

[Bj]

Not really, my car is a gas guzzler (gets about 14mpg), but even if it wasn't then in the city it's both cheaper and quicker to cycle everywhere.

(edit) Strangely enough gas prices are lower in the far north of Sweden (Kiruna). Not quite figured that one out, must cost a lot to ship it up there.

so you guys just live with it? If you can stand $9 a gallon, then the talk about $7 max for drivers is bogus.

someone somewhere is making hudge profit.

edit

Actually he gave it in liters, which means:

£1.16/liter = $8.69/ US gallon.

ahh ok, for a minute there, I was planning to move :lol:

 

[Cairan]

The irony of current gas prices is that America has been digging it's own grave for sometime now... With about 25% of the world demand with 5% of the world population plus the huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge trade deficits and erosion of the national manufacturing and industrial base (outsourcing anyone?), and to top it off the fact that oil is traded in US$, it was bound to happen.

Falling USD value + increased demand from emerging countries = skyrocketting oil price.


And I haven't even started on the fact that oil is a limited ressource which we use for a lot of stuff besides driving around... Intensive agriculture requires about as much energy from oil than we end up eating...

Get used to it, it's only going up from now on until we switch over to other energy sources. Oh and if you've been watching commercials on election nights on CNN, COAL IS NOT AN OPTION. If America were to generate all the electricity required to generate either hydrogen or directly charge all road vehiules and gas powered equipment(including trucks, construction equipment, etc.) it would require doubling the national power output. At this rate, coal would not last long (about 40-50 years if primary energy demand were to remain at current levels), and would release a huge spike of CO2 up in the air, further complicating global warming...

Personnaly, I'd start right now converting our railways to either electrical and/or hydrogen fuel cell locomotives (bulkiness of H2 is not a problem for this segment of transportation), invest massively in mass transit in urban areas and help our farmers and rural population set-up biodiesel plans using waste products, not edible stuff, so that we can keep having an adequate agricultural output when oil hits 600-700$ a barrel.

And I'm all for nuclear power to close the gap instead of coal, as long as we use the latest designs...

 

[pete.dakota]

You need more options on the poll! One litre here is, on average, 113p, so I work that out to be $10.15 per gallon. That's the UK average.

 

[V8Li]

I have a Ford Focus diesel and the price for 1 ltr of OMV Sprint Diesel (that's what I use) is 4.41 LEI, which is about 1.2 EURO. Do the math if you like.

I only use it to go to school (about 2 Km from home ) and take it out around my town since I like driving so I don't care much about prices + it does about 8ltrs/100Km no matter how hard I drive it (without destroying it). I will commit suicide once we run out of oil since my life won't make any sense without driving.

 

[dutchpirate]

Europe also has the advantage of excellent public transit systems. Granted, some of that is due to the shorter average distances that many people travel, but it's a LOT cheaper and more efficient for moving people around. North America has a strong "Car Culture" that would be hard to change. Not impossible, but very hard.

 

[Urwumpe]

Diesel and 95 Octane petrol cost now 1.52€/l here. Or

*calculate* multiply by 1.5940*3.785411784...

$9.172/gallon for both fuels. $9.775/gallon for 100 Octane petrol.

 

[Bj]

anyone remember the times of $0.59 a gallon? :lol:

if the cost is so much, then why not develop more efficient cars or a renewable energy source?
So why does it take 100 years to make go from a 10 mpg, 20 hp to a 350 hp 18 mpg, and after Kennedy announced support to land on the moon, 8 years and 2 months later, there we are on the moon.

 

[Missioncmdr]

I said $4.00-$4.20. Of course next week it will be higher. Either way, I do not own a car so I almost never drive.

 

[Cairan]

anyone remember the times of $0.59 a gallon? :lol:

The cheapest gas I ever put in a car myself was CAD 0.49 a liter back in 1998, which would equal, adjusting for exchange rate at the time, about USD 1.20 a gallon. :lol:

Oil has been a convenient energy carrier for the fact that it used to be easy to find, pump and refine and produced a dense energy source for our cars, boats and planes.

There is one segment of transportation that's going to be really in trouble and which we are seeing signs right now: aviation.