Problem Universal Cargo Deck

Matte

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hello. i'm using Universal cargo deck to attach payloads into the Shuttles bay (using Shuttle fleet).
i'm getting CTD when more than 1 Cargo deck is used in the same scenario. is it normal, a known "problem" or is it something anomalous? could you try please and let me know if you get the same CTD?
thanks
Matte
 
I've got several in my scenario and they work fine. Are you attaching more than one UCD to the shuttle though?
 
i have two shuttles, Atlantis and Discovery, sitting on the pads A & B at the Cape. i've attached one UCD at each shuttle. with 1 UCD in the scenariuo, works fine, withe the second, quicksave and restart generates CTD at restart...
 
Post the scenario that CTD's and I'll have a look
 
Here it is, thanks for assistance

BEGIN_DESC
Orbiter saved state at T = 85
END_DESC

BEGIN_ENVIRONMENT
System Sol
Date MJD 54915.9989925346
END_ENVIRONMENT

BEGIN_FOCUS
Ship STS-04
END_FOCUS

BEGIN_CAMERA
TARGET STS-04
MODE Extern
POS 4.59 -6.69 -117.17
TRACKMODE TargetRelative
FOV 40.00
END_CAMERA

BEGIN_HUD
TYPE Surface
END_HUD

BEGIN_MFD Right
TYPE Surface
SPDMODE 1
END_MFD


BEGIN_SHIPS
SoyuzProgressDockingModule:spacecraftspacecraft3
STATUS Orbiting Earth
RPOS 1261916.91 -348709.86 -6615581.46
RVEL 5750.086 5037.700 823.319
AROT 60.69 36.05 -92.24
DOCKINFO 0:0,ProgressM1
NAVFREQ 0 0
RCS 1
CTRL_SURFACE 1
CONFIGURATION 1
CURRENT_PAYLOAD 0
END
ProgressM1:TMA-APASProgressM
STATUS Orbiting Earth
RPOS 1261922.45 -348716.38 -6615585.13
RVEL 5750.086 5037.700 823.319
AROT 60.69 36.05 -92.24
PRPLEVEL 0:0.604 1:1.000 2:1.000 3:1.000
DOCKINFO 0:0,SoyuzProgressDockingModule
NAVFREQ 0 0
STATION 1
SES 100
WASTES 0
KTDU-80
ASTOWED 0 0.0000
PANSTOWED 0 0.0000
2AOVKA 0 0.0000
PROBE 0 0.0000
ECOVER 0 0.0000
Jettisoned
MET 2721658.7
END
STS-03L:Shuttle
STATUS Landed Earth
POS -80.6208179 28.6274095
HEADING 0.00
PRPLEVEL 0:1.000 1:1.000 2:1.000
NAVFREQ 0 0
CONFIGURATION 0
OV- 104
RMSARM
ODS
CARGODOOR 0 0.0000
KUBAND 0 0.0000
POSTLAND 0 0.0000
SSMES 0 0.0000
ADTA 0 0.0000
PETD 1 1.0000
SETD 1 1.0000
ARMTILT 0 0.0000 0 0.0000
PRADIATOR 0 0.0000
SRADIATOR 0 0.0000
GEAR 0 0.0000
PAYLOAD_MASS 0.0000
ARM_STATUS 0.5000 0.0151 0.0162 0.5000 0.5000 0.5000
PL1_OFS 0.000 0.000 0.000
PL1_DIR 0.000 1.000 0.000
PL1_ROT 0.000 0.000 1.000
PL2_OFS 0.000 0.000 0.000
PL2_DIR 0.000 1.000 0.000
PL2_ROT 1.000 0.000 0.000
PL3_OFS -1.850 1.800 11.750
PL3_DIR 0.000 1.000 0.000
PL3_ROT 0.000 0.000 1.000
PL4_OFS -2.200 1.800 -6.250
PL4_DIR 0.000 1.000 0.000
PL4_ROT 0.000 0.000 1.000
PL5_OFS 2.200 1.800 -6.250
PL5_DIR 0.000 1.000 0.000
PL5_ROT 0.000 0.000 1.000
PL6_OFS 1.850 1.800 11.750
PL6_DIR 0.000 1.000 0.000
PL6_ROT 0.000 0.000 1.000
OMS
CALLOUT
TGT_HEADING 42.000
ASSIST 134.000
END
Artemis:Well-Artemis
STATUS Landed Earth
POS 30.6508236 0.2098358
HEADING 300.42
ATTACHED 2:1,UCargoDeck1
NAVFREQ 0 0
END
pma:Well-pma
STATUS Landed Earth
POS 32.0463223 0.8799250
HEADING 300.90
ATTACHED 2:0,UCargoDeck1
NAVFREQ 0 0
END
UCargoDeck1:UCargoDeck
STATUS Landed Earth
POS 31.3847923 0.1507039
HEADING 66.55
ATTACHED 0:14,STS-03L
NAVFREQ 0 0
XPDR 0
CORE_NAME STS-03L
JETTISONSPEED 0.10
JETTISONINT 5.00
ALLOW_SEND_FOCUS 0
DEF_ATT_PARAMS 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.00000 0.00000 1.00000 0.00000 1.00000 0.00000
PL_DESCRIPTION pma 0.000 5.700 -4.000 0.0000 -0.0000 -1.0000 -0.0000 1.0000 -0.0000 0
PL_DESCRIPTION Artemis 0.200 6.700 -9.300 -0.0000 -0.0000 -1.0000 -0.0000 1.0000 -0.0000 1
IN_JETTISON 0 0
J_MARKER 0.00
END
K-LC-39B-v9:SpacecraftSpacecraft2
STATUS Landed Earth
POS -80.6203200 28.6268900
HEADING 0.00
NAVFREQ 94 481
CONFIGURATION 1
CURRENT_PAYLOAD 0
END
K-LC-39-v9-FC:SpacecraftSpacecraft2
STATUS Landed Earth
POS -80.6209545 28.6274742
HEADING 53.44
NAVFREQ 94 481
CONFIGURATION 1
CURRENT_PAYLOAD 0
SEQ 0 -2 0.008400
END
K-LC-39-v9-GW:SpacecraftSpacecraft2
STATUS Landed Earth
POS -80.6209848 28.6273742
HEADING 355.53
NAVFREQ 94 481
CONFIGURATION 1
CURRENT_PAYLOAD 0
SEQ 0 -2 0.001100
END
K-LC-39-v9-RSS:SpacecraftSpacecraft2
STATUS Landed Earth
POS -80.6212175 28.6271886
HEADING 359.72
NAVFREQ 94 481
CONFIGURATION 1
CURRENT_PAYLOAD 0
SEQ 0 2 0.987683
END
K-LC-39-v9-Add:SpacecraftSpacecraft2
STATUS Landed Earth
POS -80.6211295 28.6273256
HEADING 180.53
NAVFREQ 94 481
CONFIGURATION 1
CURRENT_PAYLOAD 0
END
K-LC-39-v9-Sparks1:SpacecraftSpacecraft2
STATUS Landed Earth
POS -80.6207700 28.6273562
HEADING 88.25
PRPLEVEL 0:1.000
NAVFREQ 94 482
CONFIGURATION 1
CURRENT_PAYLOAD 0
END
K-LC-39-v9-Sparks2:SpacecraftSpacecraft2
STATUS Landed Earth
BASE Cape Canaveral:3
POS -80.6208628 28.6273562
HEADING 269.34
PRPLEVEL 0:1.000
NAVFREQ 94 483
CONFIGURATION 1
CURRENT_PAYLOAD 0
END
light_39B:spacecraft/spacecraft3
STATUS Landed Earth
POS -80.6211000 28.6273200
HEADING 2.00
PRPLEVEL 0:1.000
NAVFREQ 0 0
RCS 1
CTRL_SURFACE 1
CONFIGURATION 0
CURRENT_PAYLOAD 0
END
K-LC-39A-v9:SpacecraftSpacecraft2
STATUS Landed Earth
POS -80.6035400 28.6081000
HEADING 0.56
NAVFREQ 94 481
CONFIGURATION 1
CURRENT_PAYLOAD 0
END
K-LC-39A-v9-FC:SpacecraftSpacecraft2
STATUS Landed Earth
POS -80.6041745 28.6086842
HEADING 53.44
NAVFREQ 94 481
CONFIGURATION 1
CURRENT_PAYLOAD 0
SEQ 0 -2 0.000933
END
K-LC-39A-v9-GW:SpacecraftSpacecraft2
STATUS Landed Earth
POS -80.6042048 28.6085842
HEADING 355.53
NAVFREQ 94 481
CONFIGURATION 1
CURRENT_PAYLOAD 0
SEQ 0 -2 0.001150
END
K-LC-39A-v9-RSS:SpacecraftSpacecraft2
STATUS Landed Earth
POS -80.6044375 28.6083986
HEADING 359.72
NAVFREQ 94 481
CONFIGURATION 1
CURRENT_PAYLOAD 0
SEQ 0 2 0.999650
END
K-LC-39A-v9-Add:SpacecraftSpacecraft2
STATUS Landed Earth
POS -80.6043495 28.6085356
HEADING 180.53
NAVFREQ 94 481
CONFIGURATION 1
CURRENT_PAYLOAD 0
END
K-LC-39-v9-Sparks3:SpacecraftSpacecraft2
STATUS Landed Earth
POS -80.6039898 28.6085647
HEADING 88.25
PRPLEVEL 0:1.000
NAVFREQ 94 482
CONFIGURATION 1
CURRENT_PAYLOAD 0
END
K-LC-39-v9-Sparks4:SpacecraftSpacecraft2
STATUS Landed Earth
BASE Cape Canaveral:2
POS -80.6040827 28.6085647
HEADING 269.39
PRPLEVEL 0:1.000
NAVFREQ 94 483
CONFIGURATION 1
CURRENT_PAYLOAD 0
END
light_39A:spacecraft/spacecraft3
STATUS Landed Earth
POS -80.6041000 28.6086700
HEADING 2.00
PRPLEVEL 0:1.000
THLEVEL 0:1.000
NAVFREQ 0 0
RCS 1
CTRL_SURFACE 1
CONFIGURATION 0
CURRENT_PAYLOAD 0
END
STS-04:Shuttle
STATUS Landed Earth
POS -80.6040379 28.6086195
HEADING 0.00
PRPLEVEL 0:1.000 1:1.000 2:1.000
NAVFREQ 0 0
CONFIGURATION 0
OV- 103
RMSARM
CARGODOOR 1 1.0000
KUBAND 0 0.0000
POSTLAND 0 0.0000
SSMES 0 0.0000
ADTA 0 0.0000
PETD 1 1.0000
SETD 1 1.0000
ARMTILT 0 0.0000 0 0.0000
PRADIATOR 0 0.0000
SRADIATOR 0 0.0000
GEAR 0 0.0000
PAYLOAD_MASS 0.0000
ARM_STATUS 0.5000 0.0151 0.0162 0.5000 0.5000 0.5000
PL1_OFS 0.000 0.000 0.000
PL1_DIR 0.000 1.000 0.000
PL1_ROT 0.000 0.000 1.000
PL2_OFS 0.000 0.000 0.000
PL2_DIR 0.000 1.000 0.000
PL2_ROT 1.000 0.000 0.000
PL3_OFS -1.850 1.800 11.750
PL3_DIR 0.000 1.000 0.000
PL3_ROT 0.000 0.000 1.000
PL4_OFS -2.200 1.800 -6.250
PL4_DIR 0.000 1.000 0.000
PL4_ROT 0.000 0.000 1.000
PL5_OFS 2.200 1.800 -6.250
PL5_DIR 0.000 1.000 0.000
PL5_ROT 0.000 0.000 1.000
PL6_OFS 1.850 1.800 11.750
PL6_DIR 0.000 1.000 0.000
PL6_ROT 0.000 0.000 1.000
OMS
CALLOUT
TGT_HEADING 42.000
END
END_SHIPS

BEGIN_ExtMFD
END

BEGIN_UMMUFA
CFG Scenarios/UMMUFA/CurrentState.cfg
END
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ATTACHED 0:14,STS-03L
NAVFREQ 0 0
XPDR 0
CORE_NAME STS-03L
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You don't need to attach it and list it as a core vehicle. Thats probably whats causing the problem.
 
but it is done automatically by the scn editor when i create the UCD when session is running. i'm not manupulating the .scn in any way...


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however, removing that line it works...thanks for help ;)


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i confirm that the line you highlighted makes the scn crash...
but it is automatically written when i quicksave, and also rewritten if previously eliminated via .scn file...
could you please check your .scn after a quicksave with UCD and see if it is written also in yours?
thganks
 
I suspect that the postitioning of the UCD carrier is very close to that attachment point. You could move the location of the UCD which would probably do it.

personally I don't use UCD on the shuttles.
 
garyw said:
I suspect that the postitioning of the UCD carrier is very close to that attachment point. You could move the location of the UCD which would probably do it.

personally I don't use UCD on the shuttles.
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so, how to position correctly, let's say Artemis and a PMA inside the same shuttle bay using .scn lines, without cargo deck, that i noticed gives also some autopilot strange behavious during head-up roll of the shuttle during orbital insertion...?
 
Shuttle fleet can't really handle the mass changes that UCD introduces.

Personally I'd put artemis in the cargo bay then attach the PMA to Artemis. On orbit I'd have a space walk to relocate it.
 
Think it's a long shot but my only guess is you might have an older version of payload manager. If you installed an addon which includes an older version of PM I think it will over-write the newer one. http://kulch.spb.ru/Eng/PM_dwn.html for latest version.
 
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