News Russia deploys Avangard hypersonic missile system

[Notebook]

Russia's first regiment of Avangard hypersonic missiles has been put into service, the defence ministry says.
The location was not given, although officials had earlier indicated they would be deployed in the Urals.
President Vladimir Putin has said the nuclear-capable missiles can travel more than 20 times the speed of sound and put Russia ahead of other nations.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50927648

I feel safer already.

 

[MaxBuzz]

MiG-41 hypersonic aircraft under development aircraft will be able to operate at very high altitudes and even in near space

 

[Fabri91]

MiG-41 hypersonic aircraft under development aircraft will be able to operate at very high altitudes and even in near space
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This is even less real than the cardboard Su-57 and you know it.

 

[Urwumpe]

This is even less real than the cardboard Su-57 and you know it.

At least the builder used Tamiya colours. But where does Russia find so small pilots?

 

[MaxBuzz]

hypersonic flying laboratory "Kholod" (something similar will appear in the US in 15 years X-43)

 

[TheShuttleExperience]

This is even less real than the cardboard Su-57 and you know it.

Even if it would be real, it is very unlikely to enter serial production I think.

 

[MaxBuzz]

Even if it would be real, it is very unlikely to enter serial production I think.

India and China have more visible hypersonic gliders

BrahMos

AVIC WZ-8

 

[TheShuttleExperience]

India and China have more visible hypersonic gliders

BrahMos
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AVIC WZ-8
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They are not in war with Ukraine and the West and therefore have the wherewithal to produce such things (or rather prototypes) It's very unlikely to see that MiG-41 hypersonic super fighter any time soon, not to mention serial production. It's a pipe dream.

 

[Urwumpe]

They are not in war with Ukraine and the West and therefore have the wherewithal to produce such things (or rather prototypes) It's very unlikely to see that MiG-41 hypersonic super fighter any time soon, not to mention serial production. It's a pipe dream.

The countries can do what they want, unless there are limits by law or international treaties. If Russia wants to build such a plane, that is their supreme right and I will not stop them or explain them how idiotic it is. Just let them build another Tsar weapon and find out. Of course, I hope that enough Russians exist that notice the faults in such "Wunderwaffen" and dare to tell their emperor, what a waste of precious time and resources it is.

 

[MaxBuzz]

The countries can do what they want, unless there are limits by law or international treaties. If Russia wants to build such a plane, that is their supreme right and I will not stop them or explain them how idiotic it is. Just let them build another Tsar weapon and find out. Of course, I hope that enough Russians exist that notice the faults in such "Wunderwaffen" and dare to tell their emperor, what a waste of precious time and resources it is.

It's like playing chess with a pigeon. The pigeon will scatter the pieces, shit on the board and fly away telling everyone how it beat you.

 

[TheShuttleExperience]

The countries can do what they want, unless there are limits by law or international treaties. If Russia wants to build such a plane, that is their supreme right and I will not stop them or explain them how idiotic it is. Just let them build another Tsar weapon and find out. Of course, I hope that enough Russians exist that notice the faults in such "Wunderwaffen" and dare to tell their emperor, what a waste of precious time and resources it is.

They can do whatever they want, if they can aford it. I think Russia can't, in the current situation.

 

[Urwumpe]

They can do whatever they want, if they can aford it. I think Russia can't, in the current situation.

Even a Mars mission would be cheaper than actually fighting a war for a year (Estimated at 100 billion USD/year for Russia right now). Russia can afford a lot, its ruler just doesn't want to. Same with many other countries. We Germany could easily afford a better basic welfare for children. Our rulers just prefer to subsidize fossile fuels for companies. Remember when we were told that we can't have a general speed limit on the Autobahn because we don't have enough speed limit signs? The missing signs cost as much as the subsidies for processing nuclear fuels in Germany for other countries....

And don't get me started on how much money goes around in circles for a single Super Bowl or the Olympic Games.

Russia can afford this. But they can't afford ignoring Reynolds number or supersonic aerodynamics. That is something that no money can buy.

 

[TheShuttleExperience]

Even a Mars mission would be cheaper than actually fighting a war for a month. Russia can afford a lot, its ruler just doesn't want to. Same with many other countries. We Germany could easily afford a better basic welfare for children. Our rulers just prefer to subsidize fossile fuels for companies. Remember when we were told that we can't have a general speed limit on the Autobahn because we don't have enough speed limit signs? The missing signs cost as much as the subsidies for processing nuclear fuels in Germany for other countries....

I think the US or China can "afford a lot". But Russia not quite so.

Before we do any more welfare in Germany, I would like to see some more budget spend for our armed forces and comprehensive border protection, followed by support of strong industries. But that's a different topic.

 

[Urwumpe]

I think the US or China can "afford a lot". But Russia not quite so.

But that doesn't stop them.

Before we do any more welfare in Germany, I would like to see some more budget spend for our armed forces and comprehensive border protection, followed by support of strong industries. But that's a different topic.

Honestly, our biggest problem with immigration does not come from outside, but stays inside our country and all that immigration noise just makes sure that nothing will change at all. Our bureaucracy is simply dysfunctional. It takes us two years to find out that somebody has no right to stay in this country and then we fail to get them out of our country by simple errors like not calling an office in another EU country within 6 months. Or to validate an information from another countries intelligence agency and warn other organisations in Germany about a threat within a month. Same for the industry. Volkswagen is not in a crisis because they build bad cars. Its in a crisis because they need 5 times more managers to do the job than the competition, file much more useless paperwork or need to wait for approval from too many managers (I experience that first hand, trust me), need 5 years for a new car which is really bad and additionally to that, decided to build the wrong cars for the market. And no, its not because they went electric. Otherwise their China business would have skyrocketed. They had absolutely no BEV ready for the Chinese market in 2024. And they sell most BEVs in Germany, even more than Tesla and grew, even when the market in general shrunk because of the cancellation of subsidies there. And who was paid well this year, despite all that? Managers and shareholders. The same idiots that cancelled a pretty good strategy by Diess in hindsight and went for the Porsche family way that now harms the company.

And then, you read this: https://www.igm-bei-vw.de/meldung/b...management-derweil-aber-auf-sause-in-schweden

Its really laughable, how bad things really are, if you look at the root causes.

Thats also what can make us misestimate costs. What might cost us a trillion to finance the paperwork, could cost less than 250 million in a country with lower PPP and little bureaucracy.

Sorry for the rant, but it really is hard to swallow.

 

[MaxBuzz]

hypersonic flying laboratory "Kholod" (something similar will appear in the US in 15 years X-43)
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Kh-80 Meteorit (military missile for Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird)

 

[MaxBuzz]

Kh-80 Meteorit (military missile for Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird)
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Kh-90 (Experimental hypersonic aircraft)

 

[jedidia]

Remember when we were told that we can't have a general speed limit on the Autobahn because we don't have enough speed limit signs?

Wait, what, seriously??

 

[Urwumpe]

Wait, what, seriously??

RLY!

Germany 'doesn't have enough signs' for Autobahn speed limit, says minister

Campaigners have been pushing for a temporary general speed limit on Germany's Autobahn to ease the dependence on Russian gas - but the Transport Minister says there aren't enough signs to do that.

www.thelocal.de

 

[Sunhillow]

Wait, what, seriously??

It is Germany. Introducing a speed limit here is almost the same quality as intruducing stricter rules for firearms in USA. In both cases the majority of the population would vote for it, but lobbies and some politicians find the weirdest reasons not to do so.

 

[Thunder Chicken]

This is even less real than the cardboard Su-57 and you know it.

I get Qaher-313 vibes from this.

IAIO Qaher-313 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The new stealth Iranian 5th generation jet fighter...with steam gauges taken from a light propeller aircraft.

I guess it is a successful stealth aircraft as no one will ever see it fly.