Launch News (Failure) Phobos-Grunt and YingHuo-1 atop Zenit-2 on November 8/9, 2011

[Urwumpe]

What would they announce if they determined it was going to go down in, say, Barcelona, or Venice?

A few Orbinauts will open their umbrellas. Who else is currently reading the updates of the reentry?

 

[Fabri91]

Nobody. Hype is curious thing, PG is heavier and fully fueled, yet it generates much less publicity than the other two satellites that reenterd recently.

 

[Artlav]

US STRATCOM says PhG has re-entred over the Pacific a few minutes ago ( http://twitter.com/#!/PhG_Reentry )

RIP if so.

 

[mahdavi3d]

so what about reentry media, IMG or VID ?

 

[NovaSilisko]

US STRATCOM says PhG has re-entred over the Pacific a few minutes ago ( http://twitter.com/#!/PhG_Reentry )

RIP if so.

According to the tracker I use, it's over brazil right now - but I dunno if this is based on orbital elements or actual physical tracking.

 

[Fabri91]

Orbital elements most likely. Without a chain of radar stations it would be difficult to actually track it.

 

[NovaSilisko]

Orbital elements most likely. Without a chain of radar stations it would be difficult to actually track it.

Considering the orbital elements won't load anymore, you're probably right.

I just hope it went down over land so the capsule can be recovered.

 

[Ghostrider]

We're all gonna die next time.

 

[ky]

The Russians have claimed that it reentered.

 

[orb]

The Russians have claimed that it reentered.

Source?

 

[SiberianTiger]

Source?

http://ria.ru/science/20120115/540123318.html

1250 kilometres to West from Wellington island (Chile).

 

[SiberianTiger]

That's it.

Three wise men of Gotham
Went to sea in a bowl.
If the bowl had been stronger
My tale had been longer.

 

[ky]

http://diariodigital.sapo.pt/news.asp?section_id=10&id_news=553449

Translated to English:

Fragments of the Russian spacecraft Phobos-Grunt fell into the waters of the Pacific Ocean, announced the command of the Russian Space Troops.

Launched from the Baikonur cosmodrome on the morning of November 9, 2011, bound for Phobos, a moon of Mars, the spacecraft failed to leave Earth's orbit.

Roscosmos estimated that 20 to 30 fragments will fall to the Earth's surface, whose total weight will not be over 200 kilograms. The fuel components will burn in the dense layers of the atmosphere, at about 100 kilometres altitude.

 

[Thunder Chicken]

Damn - I was hoping that the bacteria on board could have evolved to figure out the controls in time. I hope they figured out the glitch so this doesn't happen again.

 

[Urwumpe]

Soo... instead of "Don't cry for me Argentina", we now have the to use something Chilean... damn, I only remember Rodrigo Gonzalez to be born there.

 

[orb]

NASASpaceflight: Fobus-Grunt ends its misery via re-entry

(Fobus?)

SPACE.com: Failed Russian Mars Probe Crashes Into Pacific Ocean: Reports

 

[NovaSilisko]

So close yet so far from being recovered.

Any efforts to go out and fetch the capsule or is it a lost cause by now?

 

[Urwumpe]

So close yet so far from being recovered.

Any efforts to go out and fetch the capsule or is it a lost cause by now?

Practically lost. We can't find warships of WW2 with much better knowledge of their last position in the deeper oceans, so such a capsule would not have any chance to be detected, it would be possible just one rock among many on the sonar.

Also, it is doubtful that the capsule is intact after reentry, while still attached to the spacecraft. parts of it have likely survived, but not automatically in one piece

 

[SiberianTiger]

http://ria.ru/science/20120115/540143795.html

Debris of the probe have fallen in an area defined by coordinates 310.7 E 18.2 S in the Atlantic Ocean, not far from coast of Brazil, a source in rocket and space industy said. According to the data received from ballisticians team, the reentry happened at 21:59 MSK (17:59 UTC), he added.

Or maybe somewhere in-between.

 

[SiberianTiger]

By the way, 18.2 S 49.3 W is here:

http://maps.google.ru/maps?q=18.2+S...92969&sspn=7.169424,16.907959&vpsrc=6&t=m&z=4

:idk::facepalm: