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I can understand painting a shark's mouth on the nose, or a rather risque sketch of your ladyfriend back home, but this confounds me a bit...
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I can understand painting a shark's mouth on the nose, or a rather risque sketch of your ladyfriend back home, but this confounds me a bit...
"We can't shoot it, it has a really nice manga drawing!"
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That would have been the most badass maneuver in spaceflight history. And the 2nd most badass. And 3rd. And any other position because it is so much more awesome than anything else.
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:rofl: Yup, THAT'S ballsy.
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Don't get that one...
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And the Oscar goes to...the European Winter, for its utterly flawless impression of autumn! :tiphat:
Urwumpe is referring to the Return To Launch Site abort manoeuvre: basically the a giant supersonic U-turn of pure ballsiness.
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RTLS - a fancy way of aborting a launch by flying back to the launch site with a badly damaged Space Shuttle.
To quote John Young, the astronaut with the biggest possible distance to any panic: "RTLS requires continuous miracles interspersed by acts of God to be successful"
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The way I heard it, the acts of physics against nature that would have had to be performed in order to have a successful RTLS would have resulted in the pilot and mission control prosecuted for ballistic obscenities.:lol:
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Note to self, splattered over the centre of a newly formed lunar crater: the DST button on OrbitMFD is fairly important...
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Wait... they'd leave the tank on and perform the maneuver under thrust??
Ok, yeah, that could pretty much take the cake... :blink:
Doesn't that happen, like, every other day?
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Wasn't Challenger shattered to pieces simply from deviating from nose-forward attitude?
If so, how the hell was a shuttle supposed to fly side-backwards at all?
If so, how the hell was a shuttle supposed to fly side-backwards at all?
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I think that's a combination of the image being dramatic and the hope that you aren't having to perform RTLS at Max Q.
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No, I thought they might try something like gliding her back in a long turn, or somesuch... well, I don't know anything about when exactly the maneuver would be performed, but if they're going to turn her on a dime, she'd have to be pretty much out of the atmosphere already. woudn't just rounding the globe seem like a less drastic alternative in that case?
Anyways, I'm having a personal dilemma. One of my all-time favourite games got a remake, it was released horribly buggy (as in "we didn't even bother to test our object tables" buggy), but by now it seems to be playable, and mechanically very faithful to the original.
The problem: I can play the original perfectly comfortably in DosBox on my phone, where the dated graphics look just as fine as many a Gameboy advanced title, so now I'm not sure if I actually want to play the remake on a PC, since most of my gaming nowadays seems to happen on the phone anyways.
Plus, I just started a new fortress and don't want to get distracted again.
Plus I have no time.
Decisions, decisions... :facepalm:
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RTLS if I understood correctly would only have been initiated after SRB burnout, so at a much greater altitude.
The Shuttle would have turned around only "in space"/with a much lower atmospheric density, while Challenger blew up at a relatively low altitude.
The Shuttle would have turned around only "in space"/with a much lower atmospheric density, while Challenger blew up at a relatively low altitude.
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The powered turn around would happen when there is about 65% fuel left in the ET, much later in flight than when Challenger was destroyed and at much higher altitude.
During RTLS, the Shuttle starts to fly a bit higher initially to gain more altitude than horizontal speed, and still stay in the box needed for letting the orbiter come home.
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There was actually an abort mode for that: AOA, Abort Once Around. There was also another, less insane alternative than RTLS, where the Shuttle would simply fly suborbital over the Atlantic and land at a designated runway in Europe or North Africa. As I understand it, the window of opportunity for a TAL was several minutes long, and it was much more likely to be initiated than an RTLS abort.
According to Wikipedia, a TAL could be done between T+2:30 and T+8:30. The AOA had a much shorter window of only a few seconds between the end of the TAL window and the point where the Shuttle could make orbit even in its emergency state.
